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Haney claims Norman Win makes him P4P, but critics disagree

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Image: Devin Haney Says Beating Norman Jr. Makes Him P4P-Worthy

Devin Haney says if he is victorious in his fight against undefeated WBO welterweight champion Brian Norman Jr. on Saturday night, he will deserve to be high on the pound-for-pound list.

Haney (32-0, 16 KO) claims he was on the P4P list for the Ryan Garcia fight but was removed after the defeat. For the record, he finished 6th after defeating Vasily Lomachenko and Regis Prograis in back-to-back fights.

Norman’s Slender Plate

The problem with Haney’s belief that the victory over Norman Jr. (28-0, 22 KO) would put him on a top 10 P4P list is that he’s not on it. Moreover, Norman Jr. he had not defeated any significant opponent in his career, and yet he was elevated to the WBO welterweight title.

Haney doesn’t say who he should replace on the list to make the top 10. What did he look like in fights with Jose Ramirez, Ryan Garcia and Vasily Lomachenko It’s not worth the price, is it?

Ring magazine’s top 10 pound-for-pound (P4P) results.

  1. Terence Crawford
  2. Aleksander Usyk
  3. Naoya Inoue
  4. Dmitry Bivol
  5. Artur Beterbiew
  6. Jesse Rodriguez
  7. Junto Nakatani
  8. Shakur Stevenson
  9. David Benavidez
  10. Canelo Alvarez

Fans would ridicule Devin if he argued that he deserved to be rated higher by fans than Canelo, Benavidez, Shakur, Nakatani, “Bam” Rodriguez, Beterbiev, Bivol, Inoue or Usyk. If Ring Magazine gave him a high ranking, it would look bad.

P4P policy in the game

Fans are already criticizing their rankings as political for placing Crawford above Usyk at the top of the P4P list. However, removing one of the top 10 players from the list to include Haney would be just as bad.

“With Ryan [Garcia] fighting, I was taken off the pound-for-pound list, or at least some people’s list. But I think this is a fight that will put me back on that list, high on that list,” said Devin Haney Ring Magazine on his belief that defeating WBO welterweight champion Brian Norman Jr. on Saturday would be worth adding to the pound-for-pound list.

What exactly does Haney have to do

For Haney to be on the P4P list, he would have to do more than just beat Norman Jr. This would be a good start for him, but he would need to put together several solid performances in a row. He didn’t do it.

Required wins required by Haney for P4P consideration

  1. Brian Norman Jr.
  2. Jaron Ennis
  3. Gary Antuanne Russell
  4. Teofimo Lopez

In his last four fights, Haney has had three penniless performances he should have two defeats. A 2-2 record in his last four fights is not P4P worthy.

  • Jose Ramirez: Win – unanimous decision in 12 rounds
  • Ryan Garcia: Lost – 12-round majority decision
  • Regis Prograis: Win – unanimous decision in 12 rounds
  • Vasily Lomachenko: Win – (controversial) unanimous decision in 12 rounds

“It would show what type of fighter I am. In my first fight, I’m fighting the best guy at 147 pounds. I didn’t make any adjustments or look for the guy who would be the easiest to win the world title,” Haney said. “I went and faced the best guy. He’s just a pound-for-pound fighter. He’s a pound-for-pound champion.”

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Devin Haney Targets Key Opponent Following Shakur Stevenson Fight Talks Breakdown

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"Devin Haney Targets Key Opponent Following Shakur Stevenson Fight Talks Breakdown"

After positive steps towards making a fight, Devin Haney and Shakur Stevenson are said to be moving on after their teams could not finalise terms behind the scenes.

The pair of elite world champions have been linked throughout 2026, but the match-up appeared off the table earlier in the year due to a dispute over the weight.

Stevenson, who has fought just once at super-lightweight, wanted to meet at a catchweight of 144lbs, and was even said to be demanding a 10lbs rehydration clause.

Team Haney at first remained firm on the welterweight limit of 147lbs, where he beat Brian Norman Jr. last November to become WBO world champion.

Earlier this month, the fighters appeared to have a breakthrough, publicly agreeing to 145lbs on social media. Fans got excited, and predictions began flooding in.

Today, Stevenson said that, despite the initial agreement, he received an email from Haney’s lawyer saying that they were now switching back to 147lbs. Haney hit back, saying Stevenson ‘went missing for days’ after they had agreed to 145lbs, and that his rival ‘did everything’ for the fight not to happen.

Whoever is at fault, the fight now seems dead in the water.

Boxing Scene‘s Lance Pugmire now reports that Haney will revisit a fight with IBF champion Liam Paro. The Australian won the belt from Lewis Crocker in June and has since called on all champions in the division – Haney, Ryan Garcia and Teofimo Lopez – to unify. Bill Haney, father and trainer to Devin, previously announced that November 28 in Atlanta was the target for his son’s return.

Who Stevenson now targets remains unclear, though fans will begin to criticise the inactivity. He has not been in the ring since an impressive victory over Teofimo Lopez in January, a particularly frustrating period of inactivity due to a high-profile promotional deal with Zuffa Boxing announced in July.

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Tim Bradley Calls Out Biggest Duck in Boxing for Devin Haney vs Shakur Stevenson Collapse

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"Tim Bradley Calls Out 'Biggest Duck in Boxing' for Devin Haney vs Shakur Stevenson Collapse"

In the wake of a proposed clash between Shakur Stevenson and Devin Haney falling through, Tim Bradley believes one man, who he describes as the “biggest duck in boxing”, is solely responsible.

The two pound-for-pound stars were in talks to collide later this year, with November 28 and Atlanta having been suggested as the potential date and location, respectively.

According to Stevenson, however, negotiations reached an impasse at the “11th hour” due to Haney’s lawyer demanding that they fight at 147lbs.

This, if accurate, would have meant a refusal to meet at 145lbs, which both sides had seemingly decided was a sensible catchweight for their showdown.

But while Stevenson claims he was willing to jump up from 140lbs, the slick southpaw has accused Haney of going back on his promise to drop down from welterweight.

As a result, Hall of Famer Bradley has said on his YouTube channel that, in his mind, Devin and his father and trainer, Bill Haney, are to blame for the fight not happening.

“I’m gonna name you ‘Deebo Dev’ – the biggest duck in boxing. And all y’all thought it was Shakur Stevenson [avoiding Haney] all along.

“Bill [Haney]how you gonna get out of this one? What happened – you got cold feet? This man [Stevenson] gave up the weight; this man gave up some money.

“You got your lawyer involved. You said you wanted this fight – you agreed to 145[lbs] and all. Come on now – Shakur agreed to it as well. And now we can’t get the fight because you wanted it at 147[lbs]. Is that true, Bill?”

While Stevenson comes off a unanimous decision victory over Teofimo Lopez in January, Haney has not fought since dethroning Brian Norman Jr last November.

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Dubois vs Wardley 2: Heavyweights Clash at Career Heavies for World Title Rematch

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"Dubois vs Wardley 2: Heavyweights Clash at Career Heavies for World Title Rematch"

With 41 knockouts between them from 43 victories, few expect the contest to go the distance.

Wardley, sporting Ipswich Town’s newly-launched third kit with his name printed on the sleeve, was still bearing the scars of his punishing defeat in Manchester five months ago.

A cut across the bridge of his nose, first sustained during his 2024 draw with Frazer Clarke, reopened against Dubois and left his face badly swollen and bloodied.

The punishment he absorbed has raised questions over whether his decision to take an immediate rematch has come too soon but Wardley remains confident he can reverse the result.

“It’s simply seek and destroy now,” he said.

Promoter Frank Warren is predicting a “blockbuster” 2027 for the heavyweight division, with lucrative fights awaiting Saturday’s winner.

Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua will finally meet in Cardiff on 11 December, while British prospect Itauma is set to return in January following his world-title defeat by Hrgovic.

Warren confirmed there is no clause for a third fight between Dubois and Wardley but the Queensberry Promotions boss refused to rule out a trilogy if the Ipswich fighter avenges the only defeat on his record.

“If that happens it’s a natural fight,” Warren said. “That’s what’s so intriguing about this. Who will they fight next year? We want to find out who is the best.”

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