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Muhammad Ali told me he could make me world champion – I rejected him

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Muhammad Ali told me he could make me world champion – I turned him down

Few, if any, players would turn down the opportunity to train alongside Muhammad Ali. John Dino Denis did it.

The world lost the incomparable Ali ten years ago in June 2016. Unfortunately, the number of men who have boxed, sparred or shared the ring with “The Greatest” in exhibition form has declined significantly over the last few years due to the deaths of Ali’s former rivals Joe Bugner, George Foreman and, more recently, Brian London, Jurgen Blin and others.

One man who is still in great health and loves to remember his time spent in the ring with the American icon is Denis. Now an energetic 74-year-old recovering from knee replacement surgery, Denis boxed Ali twice – in an exhibition fight in 1972 and then again in 1979.

Denis, who compiled a professional record of 45-5-2(20), speaks to Boxing News on the anniversary of Ali’s death, sharing his memories and recalling a particularly intriguing offer.

A tough question to start with: what does Ali mean to you today?

Well, it’s uncomplicated – Ali was one of the greatest heavyweights in history. He was one of the greatest warriors of all time. He made everything look so straightforward. He was a gigantic man, had quick hands and was incredibly speedy on his feet. I watched him and tried to imitate some of the things he did. I liked the way he moved and used his left hand. I saw him do it and tried to make my left hand a good weapon. I did it. In fact, while sparring in Boston, I caught Ali with a strenuous left to the face. He pointed at me and I marked him pretty good. Then he wanted to kill me (laughter).

But in fact, there is no one who does not know the name Muhammad Ali, even today’s little children. He was such a great showman. He made sports fun. Ali was fun to be around; he was also such a lovely athlete. Ali is to boxing what Michael Jordan is to basketball. I thank him very much for giving me defining moments in my career; him and George Foreman, who I fought in 1976.”

How did Ali feel at your first exhibition with him compared to your second one in 1979? Did you notice a decline in the second fight?

Well, at the first show Ali was in great shape; he was in great shape. The second time he was out of shape. In Boston [the first exhibition]Ali was so witty. I actually got to the press conference tardy and while I was walking with my father, uncle and brother, Ali saw me, hid behind a wall, jumped out and started punching me. He said, “You’re not afraid of me, boy!” I told him I wouldn’t be here if I was scared. And then he said he wanted to box me first and then knock me out. He ended up boxing me last; there were three guys boxing that night. I was actually very afraid of him. I was only 22 years aged then. But I caught him with a left jab; we fought three rounds. Then he came to my room and asked what nationality I was, and I replied French-Canadian, Italian. He told me: “It can’t be true, you’re too speedy for a white man, you must have some black in you!”

Ali asked me to come with him full-time to Deer Lake; he said he would make me world champion. My dad said to me, ‘Go! Go! Go!’ And looking back, I really should have done it. But I was a little kid and I was afraid to do it, leaving my hometown and everything. But now when I look back, I realize that being around good players all the time, great players in Ali’s case, makes all the difference in a career. Boxing is, above all, knowledge. Yes, I should have taken him up on his kind offer; I really should. But I said no, and instead he took Larry Holmes under his wing.

Another story about Ali. I was in Florida just two days before the Foreman fight and he [Ali] he was down there making his movie [‘The Greatest’]. I walked out of the 5th Street gym and he stopped everything; ceased production of the film. He came up to me and started dancing around me, throwing punches and telling me how to beat Foreman! It’s great that he remembered me, it really was. But it’s witty, because before the Foreman fight, I was trying to dance in the ring while sparring, doing what Ali told me to do, and somehow I caught my foot on the canvas and sprained my ankle. I could barely walk. So Ali kind of cost me the fight because I tried to adopt his tactics (laughter). But I think I won the first few rounds against Foreman. (Dino was stopped in the fourth round by Foreman in October 1976)

And the second exhibition you had?

Yes, it was in 1979 in Providence, Rhode Island. But before that, I’m not sure what year it was, but it was before my fight with Foreman. Anyway, Ali contacted my manager and was going to go on an Asian tour of 12 countries, doing box shows. He wanted me to go, so he sent Jimmy Ellis to box with me to see how I could handle him, and I boxed with Jimmy for three rounds. Then they [Ali’s team] he said they wanted me to go to Asia with him. I was very excited about it and signed contracts. But the deal fell through because they, the various countries, could not provide Ali with adequate security.

In the second exhibition, Ali was not in form. In 1972 he moved as if he were 25 years aged. In 1979 he was already in a bit of a bad shape. Angelo Dundee came to my dressing room and told me not to treat Ali when I was working with him. I had no problem with it. I’ve always been a gentleman in the ring; I would never operate Ali when he was out of shape. You know, I was honored to box him again. In 1972 I never held back; I wanted to climb that ladder as high as possible. In 1979 I held back, but really only a little. He wore a headgear in 1972, but we didn’t wear one in 1979. At the second show, Ali wore a full suit, or training suit. He really wasn’t in good physical shape at the time, and to be forthright, I felt a bit sorry for him at the time. I think it was all about money back then. I didn’t want him to come back the way he did and fight Larry Holmes. But Ali lived too long, like many of us [boxers] Down. I did it myself. I think Ali made this bad decision simply because he really needed the money.

Do you have anything negative to say about Ali as a person? It’s strenuous because we all love him so much…

Well, I have no right to criticize anyone, but at that time the only thing that I wasn’t too elated with Ali was that he refused to go to war and fight for his country. I wasn’t very elated about it. It was his decision, but if he went to Vietnam – which many children did when they didn’t want to go – he would simply pack the displays in boxes; he wouldn’t see any fighting. And when he threw the gold medal into the river, why did he do that, he threw away the medal that the country gave him, I don’t know why he made that decision. You know, for me, winning an Olympic medal for my country is one of the highest honors… But who am I to judge Ali or anyone else?”

Is there anything else you want to say about Ali?

I think it’s wonderful the impact Ali has had on all of us. You know, Ali made so many people famed – he made Howard Cosell famed. Ali was great in this match. Ali really made Angelo Dundee famed. Angelo was a great trainer, but Ali could have been trained by anyone. Ali had a gift from God. He was destined to become a champion; he was simply unique.

I also have to say that this topic has been coming up a lot lately – how would Ali fare against Mike Tyson! I truly believe, there is no doubt in my mind, that Ali would destroy Mike Tyson. Tyson came up with heavyweights who were in no way as perilous as most of the heavyweights of the 1970s. Tyson’s greatest advantage was getting to his opponent; he used his lack of height to his advantage. But Tyson, as speedy as he was, Ali’s ability to stay on the outside would have kept Tyson from even getting close to him. Ali would drag the fight on for a long time; he would never let Tyson get close to him and he would catch Tyson. This is my choice. I’ll take a great boxer over a great slugger any day. And don’t forget, Ali had a gigantic, gigantic heart and would definitely take a punch. He was simply unique and it’s an honor to be able to talk to you about him.

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Usyk vs Wilder: A Clash That Could Redefine Boxings 140-Year Lineal Heavyweight Championship

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Heavyweight boxing’s lineal championship has survived for more than 140 years, but Oleksandr Usyk’s proposed farewell against Deontay Wilder could leave the historic title facing something more permanent than another vacancy.

From John L. Sullivan through Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, Tyson Fury and Usyk, World Boxing News recognizes 40 men as having occupied the position regarded as heavyweight boxing’s ultimate crown.

The principle has always been simple. Beat the man who beat the man and the championship changes hands.

Usyk has vacated his sanctioning body titles and wants Wilder for what he has described as the final fight of his career. If Wilder wins, there is no argument under the traditional lineal principle. He beats the man and becomes the man.

If Usyk wins and retires, boxing could be left trying to rebuild a lineage in a heavyweight division entering an entirely different championship era.

Usyk-Wilder Could Be the End

WBN recently outlined how Wilder could remarkably finish his career as lineal heavyweight champion after appearing close to the end following his brutal knockout defeat to Zhilei Zhang in 2024.

The former WBC champion has never held the lineal crown despite three previous opportunities against Fury. Wilder would become the 41st heavyweight recognized by WBN within a lineage stretching back to Sullivan in 1885.

One right hand against Usyk could change that. A Ukrainian victory creates the more complicated scenario.

Retirements have interrupted the lineage before, but heavyweight boxing has eventually found a way to establish another recognized number one.

This time could be different.

Zuffa Boxing intends to crown its own heavyweight champion, which could even be the Usyk vs Wilder fightand has indicated a willingness to work with boxing’s established sanctioning bodies in some cases. That potentially adds another heavyweight title alongside the WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO championships.

The Ring further complicates the picture.

Can Boxing Create Another Lineal Champion?

The Ring championship has increasingly become associated with the lineal concept because its heavyweight champion is generally regarded as the division’s leading fighter.

Usyk leaves little room for argument. He defeated Anthony Joshua twice, beat Fury twice and remains unbeaten as a professional.

But what happens after he leaves?

What happens if The Ring heavyweight championship remains within Zuffa while another fighter outside the promotion unifies the WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO titles? Which fighter would then be recognized as the man capable of restoring the lineal championship?

The lineal championship cannot simply be handed to whoever holds the most belts. Somebody has to establish themselves as the man.

But who gets that recognition if The Ring and the sanctioning bodies recognize two different heavyweight champions for the foreseeable future?
The lineal championship could almost certainly cease to exist as we now know it.

Boxing has solved that problem before.

Following Lewis’s retirement, The Ring crowned Vitali Klitschko heavyweight champion after his victory over Corrie Sanders in 2004, with WBN recognizing Klitschko as the beginning of a new lineage. Wladimir Klitschko later became the division’s dominant champion before Fury defeated him in 2015.

Fury’s victory eventually led to Usyk, who defeated him twice in 2024.

That lineage now rests with Usyk.

A 140-Year Championship Facing Extinction

The lineal title has never required a sanctioning fee, mandatory challenger or physical belt. It exists because one fighter is recognized as the man at the top of the heavyweight division.

Not everybody has accepted that concept.

Eddie Hearn dismissed it when Fury’s status was being debated in 2018.

“The lineal championship doesn’t actually exist,” Hearn said. “It’s a mythical title that people want to use when they don’t have any belts.”

WBN reported Hearn’s argument at the timebut has continued recognizing and documenting heavyweight boxing’s lineage.

Forty men and more than 140 years provide the history behind that position.

The concern after Usyk is whether an increasingly divided sport will still be capable of producing one heavyweight champion widely recognized above all the others.

If Wilder wins, the problem disappears for now. He beats Usyk and takes the lineage with him.

If Usyk wins, retires and boxing’s competing championship structures continue separating the heavyweight division, the lineal crown could become more than vacant.

It could become extinct.

And if nobody can agree who is entitled to bring it back, whether it’s Zuffa, The Ring or the other sanctioning bodies, Hearn’s old argument may finally have its day.

But once it’s gone, did it really exist anyway?


About the Author

Phil Jay is the Editor-in-Chief of World Boxing News (WBN), a BWAA-acknowledged boxing news website founded in 2010. A veteran boxing reporter with 16 years of experience, he has interviewed world champions, broken international exclusives, and reported ringside from major events. His work is published worldwide through WBN and distributed on platforms including Apple News.

Read Phil Jay’s full bio and latest stories.

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Dmitry Bivol Faces Urgent Deadline to Secure Next Fight Against Former Champion

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Dmitry Bivol currently holds the WBA, WBO and IBF light-heavyweight titles, with a trilogy showdown against Artur Beterbiev rumoured once again, but the three-belt unified titleholder has now been given just 10 days to agree to a fight with an alternate former world champion.

The Russian avenged his maiden career defeat by scoring a majority decision win in his rematch with Beterbiev to claim the undisputed throne in February 2025. Although, just two months later, Bivol relinquished the WBC crown with David Benavidez being the beneficiary.

Since then, Bivol has fought only once, making his ring return in a decision win against IBF mandatory challenger Michael Eifert back in Maybefore rumours of a third fight with Beterbiev re-emerged.

Yet, last month, Bivol was ordered to face former WBA (Super) super-middleweight world champion Callum Smith, who is currently in possession of the WBO Interim light-heavyweight title and positioned as the WBO mandatory challenger.

Bivol then underwent elbow surgery and was granted an extension to the negotiation period with Smith, but last night, WBO President Gustavo Olivierirevealed that an additional extension has been granted, giving the parties until August 20 to reach a deal.

“Re: WBO 175 lbs – Bivol/Smith

“The WBO Championships Committee has granted the parties a final extension, through August 20, 2026, to reach terms for the Mandatory bout, consistent with the WBO’s 1 World Champion per division policy and the objective of eliminating the Interim title.

“Should an agreement not be reached by the deadline, purse bid proceedings will be conducted on August 27, 2026, in San Juan, Puerto Rico.”

As Olivieri states, if an agreement is not reached by Thursday, August 20, then purse bid proceedings will take place on Thursday, August 27.

One option could see Bivol vacate his WBO light-heavyweight world title in favour of another clash with Beterbievwith Smith expected to be elevated and thus become a two-division world champion.

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Heavyweight KO Artist Teremoana Joins Fury vs Joshua Card After Early Knockout Victory

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Fight fans are keen for an announcement of Tyson Fury vs Anthony Joshua, but one further detail about the proposed event emerged after a heavyweight fighter was in action on Matchroom’s show in Queensland, Australia today.

The heavyweight division is currently searching for its new superstars, and Australia has an intriguing offering in Teremoana Teremoana, who had won by knockout in all 11 of his professional contests prior to today; nine of those stoppages coming in the opening round and the remaining two coming in round two.

Consequently, the 28-year-old is deemed to be one to watch in the heavyweight division, but in Queensland, he was tasked with his most difficult opponent to date in Michigan-born DeAndre Savage, who had also won inside of the distance in all 11 of his victories but suffered a maiden defeat to Brandon Moore last September.

Trained by former WBC super-welterweight world champion Tony Harrison, 35-year-old Savage looked wary from the get-go and Teremoana wasted no time in getting to work in his first main event, as the imposing 6’6” Aussie heavyweight quickly assumed control of the contest and showed tremendous hand speed for his size.

Still, Savage survived a one-sided opening round without hitting the deck, despite a terrified look in his eye throughout the opening three minutes. The American would not be so lucky in the second, buzzed early in the round and then dropped after Teremoana landed a duo of straight right-hands to the temple.

Savage did not attempt to beat the count, instead crawling to a knee and waiting keenly for referee Phil Austin to finish his 10-count, awarding Teremoana with a 12th consecutive knockout as a professional without fighting ever beyond round two.

In his post-fight interview on the DAZN broadcast, after treating the fans to a haka in the ring, Teremoana shared news that he would be appearing on the Fury-Joshua undercard.

“What I have heard on the grapevine is that I should be on the AJ-Fury undercard.”

Eddie Hearn then confirmed the idea, but recognised that he will need to increase the level of his opposition for a fight on a card of such magnitude.

“That is definitely the plan, but we have got to step up the opposition.”

Despite those words, Eddie Hearn recently threatened to call the Fury-Joshua fight offif a premature announcement for the event to be in America is made any time soon.

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