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Heavyweight long shot history: Where does Jake Paul vs. Anthony Joshua fit?

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Main impact Anthony Joshua vs. Jake Paul is obvious: the belief that this is a fight Paul has no chance of winning.

Still, there have been many mismatches in heavyweight history. A long list of heavyweights entered the ring when they had no chance of winning. In this sense, Joshua vs. Paul is no different from previous events, except that there is quite a lot of interest in this topic. What about those hopeless heavyweights?

Without hope. It’s too harsh a term, and yet it was used in many heavyweight fights. And sometimes, if rarely, a heavyweight with zero chance of winning can actually deliver a performance that becomes that fighter’s moment of greatness. The obvious example here is Chuck Wepner.

Certainly no one gave Wepner any chance against Muhammad Ali when they met in Cleveland in March 1975. Wepner actually had credentials. For example, he was ranked in the top 10 in the world and had won his last eight fights, which included overcoming a loss to Fresh Jersey rival Randy Neumann and then winning the rubber match. He also won a 12-round decision over former WBA champion (and Ali’s ancient rival) Ernie Terrell.

But Wepner now met in Ali one of the greatest heavyweights of all time – many would say the greatest. Just five months earlier, Ali had knocked out George Foreman in the Rumble In The Jungle.

The American press was critical of Monday’s Ali vs. Wepner scandal. This was considered a ridiculous mismatch. However, Wepner largely made his critics eat their words, lasting until the 15th and final round and even taking credit for the ninth-round knockout – although he did step on Ali’s foot. (Chuck, God bless him, insisted the knockdown was real.)

“Chuck Wepner’s Monday night was no joke,” wrote Dave Anderson in the Fresh York Times. “Chuck Wepner justified his existence as a sustainable, if not artistic, contender.”

Wepner played extremely. He needed only 19 seconds to cover the distance. “No one will laugh at Chuck Wepner anymore,” Anderson wrote.

Neither do they. Wepner’s courageous stance was the inspiration for Sylvester Stallone’s character in the Rocky films.

Chuck even received financial compensation (an undisclosed amount) when he filed a lawsuit against Stallone over the film’s underdog being based on Chuck’s real-life experiences.

So it was a case of a challenger deemed hopeless emerging from the fight a winner in life, though not in the ring. What about some of the others?

Tom McNeeley and his son Peter had no hope in heavyweight fights 34 years apart. Tom lost in four rounds to Floyd Patterson in a title fight in December 1961, and Peter suffered a first-round shellac attack against Mike Tyson in August 1995.

Patterson was a 1/10 favorite going into his fight with McNeeley père at Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto.
McNeeley, whose 23-0 record was built largely against opponents with little pugilistic merit, touted a great fight, telling the press that he would knock out Patterson within six rounds.

“I’m going after him,” McNeeley said. – He won’t have to look for me.

Well, McNeeley was right when he said the fight wouldn’t go six rounds. BoxRec notes that McNeeley fell 11 times. I counted nine knockdowns, including a fourth-round countout, but referee Jersey Joe Walcott seemed to miss a few – I think things were moving a little too brisk for the ancient heavyweight champion.

There was even a point in the fourth round when Patterson appeared to have landed after McNeeley landed a left hook. The YouTube video shows that referee Walcott didn’t count to eight, but I would call that a knockdown. There was no doubt that Floyd had been hit.

“The Master is injured!” – exclaimed commentator Chris Schenkel.

So Tom McNeeley was beaten, but not disgraced, as the saying goes.

As for Peter’s son, well, he was basically handed to Tyson on a platter during Iron Mike’s return to the ring after his imprisonment and four-year hiatus. I was ringside for this event at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

Showtime TV analyst and former champion Bobby Czyz predicted Tyson to win in the first round. (I think Bobby actually said it was “impossible” for the fight to go beyond the opening round.)

McNeeley came out swinging, got nailed and it was all over in a minute and 29 seconds – officially a disqualification as McNeeley’s handlers entered the ring mid-round, but all in all it was a TKO in all but name as they were saving their man.

On the same night as Patterson vs. McNeeley, in a closed-circuit double-header (spectators at each event could watch the other’s fight on four-sided screens that were lowered for the purpose), another heavyweight fight took place – this time as substantial as anyone could imagine – between future champion Sonny Liston, then the No. 1 contender and champion-in-waiting, and German Albert Westphal in Philadelphia.

Westphal was a former German champion, but he was a diminutive heavyweight, only 5-foot-8, who was stopped four times in his 24-8-3 record.

Destitute Westphal tried to move around the ring, throwing sneaky punches and getting on his bike right away, but the patient Liston followed him, knowing it was only a matter of time before he caught him.

Sure enough, a quick one-two knocked Westphal face down, and it was counted out after a minute and 58 seconds.
Joe Frazier has had so many wars that he could be forgiven for a few straightforward touches. One of them occurred when he defended the heavyweight title against local slugger Dave Zyglewicz on April 22, 1969 in Houston.

Zyglewicz had a decent record (28-1, 15 KOs) and defeated several once-solid but now overshadowed fighters. However, in one of only three fights outside of Texas, he suffered a decision loss to boxer Sam Wyatt (record 6-7-2) in Los Angeles just a year before meeting Smokin’ Joe.

As expected, Frazier outpointed Zyglewicz in the first round. Zyglewicz claimed he never went down, but Frazier dropped him twice with left hooks and won in a minute and 36 seconds.

However, Zyglewicz gave it a chance. “Both fighters came out with a slingshot, carrying the skin with them,” the AP reported.

But when Frazier landed a left hook, it was almost over, although Zyglewicz survived the first of two knockdowns.
Frazier was as nice as he could be to Zyglewicz in his later comments to the press: “He was full of heart and came to fight.”

In June 1987, Frank Bruno faced a woefully inadequate opponent in Chuck Gardner, a immense man with a shaved head from Minnesota.

This was Bruno’s second fight following his knockout loss to Tim Witherspoon in the first of Large Frank’s heavyweight title fights, and the fight took place in Cannes, site of the famed film festival. Harry Carpenter told BBC viewers: “This is a fight Bruno has to win.”

However, Bruno’s camp knew this and Gardner was chosen for a reason – which was to give Bruno a knockout victory. This goal was achieved, but unfortunately the fight was a farce. Gardner looked terrible even before Bruno landed the punch.

“It really looks ancient,” Carpenter said. “Even the hair is gray.”

Bruno landed just one punch on any note, a left hook, and Gardner went down in a heap.

“It only took one not-so-lethal blow from Bruno to put him down,” Carpenter said in a disgusted tone. “This man had no chance. He shouldn’t have appeared in the ring.”

No, he shouldn’t have, but there have been plenty of heavyweights who really shouldn’t have been in the ring against infinitely better opponents.

Take, for example, Johnny Paychek, the Chicago heavyweight who faced the great Joe Louis for the title in 1940 at Madison Square Garden.

Paychek had an extensive record of 44-4-2, 28 KOs. Writer Jack Cuddy called him “a light-skinned, half-bald guy who claims to be 25.”

Paychek attended college for a year and, according to Cuddy, “brought several best-selling volumes of fiction and nonfiction with him” to boot camp in Pompton, Fresh Jersey.

But the “Illinois intellectual,” as Cuddy called him, was a 10/1 underdog (today the odds would be more like 35/1), with a 1/2 chance that Louis would win within five rounds.

As it turned out, the fight lasted only two rounds.

“It didn’t even look like a fight,” the AP reported. Paychek lost three times in the first round, and Louis finished the fight after 44 seconds of the second round.

I could go on and on, but you get the point: there were a lot of mismatches in the heavyweight fights. Jake Paul couldn’t do any worse than some of those who came before him. Anything better – say, a Chuck Wepner or Tom McNeeley-style “magic moment” – will be a bonus.

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Malik Scott Predicts Knockout Victory for Jai Opetaia in Upcoming Fight

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Deontay Wilder’s former head coach Malik Scott has delivered a knockout prediction for the American’s upcoming showdown with Jai Opetaia.

The pair will square off at Cardiff’s Principality Stadium on December 11, with Opetaia making his heavyweight debut on the undercard of Tyson Fury vs Anthony Joshua.

Despite him being the naturally smaller man, many are favouring the Australian – a former two-time world cruiserweight champion – to defeat his 10-years-older opponent.

It is, after all, generally accepted that Wilder has declined significantly since his trilogy bout with Furywho survived two knockdowns and scored an 11th-round knockout in their 2021 encounter.

Back then, Wilder had just joined forces with Scott, his former opponent, and the pair maintained their fighter-trainer relationship through subsequent defeats against Joseph Parker and Zhilei Zhang.

With Wilder now operating under different coaches, though, Scott has shared a balanced view of the Opetaia fight with Seconds Out.

“The fight’s got dynamite written all over it. Jai Opetaia is very dangerous, but he’s a smaller man that’s been hurt by smaller men than Deontay, slower men than Deontay.

“I’ve never seen Opetaia get hit by nobody like Deontay; I’ve seen Deontay get hit by bigger punchers than Opetaia. [But] one thing we can expect in this fight is a knockout.

“The name of the fight is ‘bad intentions’ – at least that’s what I’m calling it, because that’s what they share in common. What they share in common is mentality – they both are trying to hurt you.”

While he stopped short of predicting a winner, it is perhaps telling that Scott, despite his relationship with Wilder, has not explicitly favoured him to win by knockout.

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Buatsi vs Hutchinson 2 Live Blog and Results: Round-by-Round Updates

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Joshua Butter and Willy Hutchinson will meet again, this time for the vacant WBC light heavyweight title from Manchester.

BLH will be here from 2 pm ET with live results and coverage, plus the live discussion down in the comments section.

Buatsi beat Hutchinson back in September 2024, a close and controversial split decision in London, and the stakes are even higher this time around.

Join us this afternoon, and if you’re away from home, you can join the conversation with the SB Nation app for iOS or Android!

How to watch Buatsi vs Hutchinson 2

Streaming: DAZN (subscription)

Location: AO Arena, Manchester, England

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Boxing Mailbag: Middleweight Future, Lomas Comeback, Lara Insights, and More

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Have you seen The Boxer (1997) starring Daniel Day-Lewis? If you have, what did you think of DDL’s boxing in the movie? In my opinion it’s the most convincing anyone with no background in the sport (though knowing the man he probably trained for months like a maniac to get in the role) ever did on screen.

Many years ago, yeah. I remember liking the movie a lot and being impressed with Daniel Day-Lewis’ performance, which, you know — par for the course with him, but in particular the boxing as a specific thing that wasn’t just him being one of the great actors to ever live. Good movie!

From Southpaw Double Jab:

How would Canelo do in a rematch with Crawford, if it happened within a year? He certainly look sharper, although his foe was about as straightforward as they get, albeit strong (but only determined in spots, it seemed). Painful reminders in the 12th that Canelo carries his power late into a fight, and into his career…pity his feet are often so slow in cutting off the ring.

I think it could be interesting, but a big part of that is that Crawford would come in rusty now. And while he looks good on camera and stuff, you don’t know what kind of “fighting shape” he’s kept himself in in the year-plus he’s already been away from the ring. But if all things are equal, both guys as good as they can be on the night, I just think Bud beats him until proven otherwise. Can’t pick against it.

Middleweight has been a barren landscape for some time now, but help appears to be on the way! We’ve got promising prospects (A. Jones, C. Peters), the solid middle class (J. Ramos, Mielnicki, Katzourakis, J. Tucker, Liddard), promising belt holders (A. McKenna, Y. Hernandez shortly) , reliable vets (Lara, Adames), nepo babies (Eubank Jr., Tszyu), and the much-needed names moving up from 154 (Ortiz Jr., Zayas, and maybe Boots or Fundora?). At the end of 2027, who will be the top guy at 160?

I’m praying the coming year really is the one where we start to see real life again at 160. We’ve thought help was coming repeatedly, and then it fizzled. But you’re sort of getting to the real key, too: It’s not about some young gun taking over, or at least it doesn’t have to be. That middle class, get these guys fighting each other and you have a better, at least more active and enjoyable division pretty much immediately.

If I had to make a guess on the top dog at 160 at the end of 2027, I’m going to say Xander Zayas, unless Boots winds up there, which is very possible. So Boots, I guess, but if not him then Zayas will make Boots’ win over him look even better going forward. I really think he’ll rebound well from the loss, I think he’s a very good fighter with a great mindset.

November 21st has become a weird hole in the boxing calendar. Any idea why? We have Teremoana on Wednesday, Amari Jones on Friday, but then Saturday is a big blank hole. No major promoters having a show. Then on the 28th is Kabayel vs. Hysa on Saturday, but still nothing in the American time slot. 2 weeks in a row with nothing for the American audience. I assume it’s football season? Nothing comparable happened last year.

I think there was real hope that Shakur vs Haney would come on November 28. Other than that, you’ve got football, then Thanksgiving in the States on the 26th, and sometimes this stuff just happens. Late year boxing schedules often get janky. Some guys just don’t want to train around the holidays, too.

The Ring came out with their first pound for pound list in 1989, since then it has been topped by 17 different fighters, 9 Americans, 2 Mexicans, 2 Ukrainians, and Nicaragua, Japan, Kazakhstan and the Philippines have all had one respectively. As a boxing fan the country whose absence on that list looms the largest to me is Great Britain, why has the UK never had a number one P4P boxer? Is it just dumb luck, lack of top tier training infrastructure, lack of talent, an insidious anti-British plot, or something else?

Who got closest? Calzaghe? Hamed? Hatton?

I think it’s just one of those things. Lots of top British fighters in that time frame, just haven’t had one of those, like, sport-leading, dominant guys in the weights that generally get the P4P love. Lots of big stars, though.

Thoughts on Erislandy Lara’s career now that we’re headed towards its twilight? I’ve always had a substantial soft spot for the elegant Cuban even if his opposition these last couple years has been less than stellar. Do you think he has any considerable future at 160 as a kind of B-Hop lite or do you think he keeps taking cheques against easy touches until the wheels come off while holding his belt hostage?

Really good fighter, borderline great at his very best. I don’t expect him to do anything terribly interesting, though it’s worth noting he signed up to fight Janibek, and that fell apart because of Janibek.

I’ve said this before, but I sincerely admire the decade he’s had in the 2020s, and going back to August 2019 when he trounced Canelo’s Brother, Ramon. Look at that schedule: Greg Vendetti, Cornflake LaManna, Spike O’Sullivan, Michael Zerafa, a blown-up/half-retired Danny Garcia, Johan Gonzalez. Not a sincere contender among them, no matter what BoxRec’s computers think of Zerafa, something I have never understood. And every one of those fights for a world title. And all that time, you can’t even say Lara’s a draw and go, “Well, he brings in money!”

It’s really something remarkable. And I just can’t be mad at the guy. He took advantage of something that is allowed. And plus, in the two fights before the Ramon-to-present run, he gave us absolute wars against Jarrett Hurd and Brian Castano. I started doing BLH in 2006, Lara came on the scene in 2008, there aren’t that many fighters we actively talked about on this site in 2008 and 2026.

He was also arguably robbed of two wins that would have been trajectory-changing, first against Paul Williams in 2011, and then against Canelo in 2014. Lara’s 43 now, he does have the feeling of a guy who could do this until he’s 50 if he’s smart and careful about it. I think he’ll beat Tszyu in a month, but I’m also not 100% on that, 43 is years past when it could be any old fight where you go old. But we’ll see. I like Lara.

Why don’t we ever hear about heavy weight catch weights? We have some giants fighting recently and the “smaller” 200+ guys seem to not do so well, except Usyk. Do you consider the unpopular Bridgerweight division as a type of heavy catch weight? Why do you think the fans have not adopted it as such?

Because boxing doesn’t need a 900th division. Bridgerweight will never connect. Cruiserweight has never really connected outside of Europe. And that’s had decades to get there. People don’t want more divisions or weight classes. They just don’t. We have too many as it is.

Usyk vs Benavidez at cruiserweight – who you got? And would a defeat hurt Usyk’s legacy or further enhance it simply because he took such a dangerous fight? Lastly, do you want Usyk to take that fight?

Usyk’s legacy is set in stone. If anyone thinks losing to Benavidez hurts Usyk’s legacy, I think they just lack perspective, that’s a consequence of our “reaction”-driven sports culture.

If Ryan vs Floyd actually happens, and Floyd loses… does his ATG stock take a hit? Ryan has said it has to be sanctioned. Does it depend on it being an actual officially sanctioned bout vs exhibition?

No, Floyd’s legacy doesn’t take a hit. I think it’s kind of embarrassing that Ryan Garcia wants to fight a 50-year-old Floyd Mayweather, but that’s the Ryan Garcia Story. One step forward for your own legitimacy, two steps back.

If Mayweather were to take a sanctioned fight with Garcia or basically anyone at this point, I have a hard time looking at that as something legitimate worth taking seriously. He would only do it because of truly dire finances, and what are we talking about then? We’re not talking about a prime athlete. We’re not talking about someone who even wants to be there. We’re talking about an old guy who needs money and is desperate enough to do something he does not want to do and never did. That’s not interesting to me, and it’s not something I’d take seriously on his record. It’s just sad.

If the proposed Muhammad Ali Reform Act does not pass the senate, would you expect Zuffa to shutter its business? No UBO, bad business with sanctioning bodies and rival promoters, no standout name to promote…I can’t help but think this is Dana White’s XFL.

Very possible. I guess you could give Zuffa Boxing to someone other than Dana under the TKO banner, but what’s the point then? They’re not going to invest in it at that stage.

Loma just re-signed with top rank so the comeback is OFFICIALLY OFFICIAL!!! My question is, when Loma moved up to 135 lbs back in 2018, would you consider that decision one of the worst boxing “career” decisions a top fighter liked Loma could’ve made?

Nope. He did well. Had big fights, made good money, went 8-2 at the weight and his losses were narrow decisions against Teofimo and Haney, and a lot of people thought he deserved the duke against Devin, and it was certainly debatable. He had a bad half a fight against Teofimo in a weird environment in 2020. But he lost to a pair of younger, talented guys who were natural at 135 and are both now three-division world champions, same as Vasiliy.

If the best fights for him to take in this comeback were at 135, he’d fight at 135 again. But there are fights he can make at 130 and that’s the better weight for him. If he could still make 126 I’m sure he’d prefer that. Every time he moved up it was to get good fights. And he took them when they were on the table.

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