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RIP Michael Parkinson, the man who brought out the best (and worst) in Muhammad Ali.

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R.I.P Michael Parkinson, The Man Who Brought Out The Best (and worst) In Muhammad Ali

A national treasure here in the UK, Michael Parkinson, for many of us the king of chat show hosts, died today at the advanced age of 88. Loved by everyone, welcomed by everyone as an interviewer (well, almost everyone; Meg Ryan and her infamous Parky “interview” was another story), Parkinson, at the height of his career, regularly attracted millions of television viewers whenever his show aired.

Just look at the long list of giants Parky sat across from in the studio, asking unlimited, unscripted questions:

Clint Eastwood

Orson Welles

Jimmy Cagney

James Stewart

Woody Allen

John Lennon

John Wayne

Fred Astaire

Betty Davis

Lauren Bacall

Jerzy Best

Peter Seller

Paul McCartney

David Bowie

Michael Caine

Will Smith…… and many others.

Including Muhammad Ali.

Parky interviewed Ali four times – in 1971, twice in 1974 and in 1981.

All four interviews were wonderful in their own way, and Parkinson was somehow able to bring out so many emotions and reactions from Ali: anger, rage, almost uncontrollable laughter (see Ali’s last appearance on Parkinson and what comedian Freddie Starr did to him!) , pride, satisfaction and even fear.

The most renowned interview took place in overdue 1974, just after Ali had reclaimed his throne by dismantling George Foreman in Africa. As enormous as the universe, Ali held nothing back when he spoke, especially his religious beliefs (taught by The Nation of Islam). Ali didn’t like it when Parkinson had the audacity to adopt confrontational tactics in defense of his former champion when the reigning heavyweight champion of the world called Joe Frazier “Uncle Tom.”

“Oh, that’s not Uncle Tom,” Parky said in Joe’s defense.

“He’s not! So why does he insist on calling me Cassius Clay?” Ali shot back. “He’s a different type of Negro, he doesn’t like me. There are two kinds of slaves. To me, Joe Frazier is worse than you! He’s working for the enemy.” “

It was shocking at the time (and Ali’s inflammatory words took his already intense rivalry with Frazier to a whole recent level).

Ali was also angered by the way Parky tried to “trap” him on live TV. Parkinson had previously mentioned in an interview how Ali left school almost illiterate, and later when he used quotes about Ali in a book focusing on his double standards (Ali, preaching the belief that nothing material mattered, lived in a mansion and owned over one Rolls Royce and as Ali said, in accordance with Muslim doctrine, that “all white people are devils”, even though he had many whites on his staff at the time) – Ali really lost it.

Looking genuinely incensed, Ali felt that he had indeed been the victim of a fraud, that he had been cornered.

“You can’t beat me mentally or physically,” Ali spat at his host. “You really are a joke.”

Parky laughed, not at all sincerely, waiting for the cute, cheerful and comfortable version of Ali to return, which he did at the right time.

But for a while, consciously or unconsciously, Parkinson unsettled Ali and angered him in a way that none of his in-ring rivals had ever done. Even Frazier, apparently.

Yes, Parky has interviewed many giants and his shows are gold today. But no show was more entertaining or truly stimulating than Parkinson’s overdue 1974 interview with “The Greatest.”

We will miss Parky greatly. In fact, his great chat was overlooked for many years.

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On this day: Huge Joe Louis turns pro

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On This Day: The Great Joe Louis Goes Pro

How fitting that Joe Louis, one of America’s greatest heroes, made his professional boxing debut on July 4, during one of the biggest holiday celebrations in the US, and it is such an significant date. Once upon a time, July 4 was also the day when the substantial fight would take place – think Jack Johnson, Jim Jeffries, Jack Dempsey, Jess Willard and others. And so it was on that great day in 1934 that 20-year-old Joseph Louis Barrow boxed for pay for the first time. The fight took place in Chicago, like many of Louis’ substantial fights.

Louis, trained by Jack Blackburn and mentored by John Roxborough and Julian Black, had established an amateur record of 50-4 (43) and was now ready to begin his march to the top. Usually, especially nowadays, a future star is quite poorly suited to make his professional debut (there are exceptions, of course: see Vasily Lomachenko and one or two other contemporary players). But Louis met a guy who had boxed about 48 times, winning 27 of those fights by KO.

But as it turned out, Jack Kracken, who was from Norway and fought in Washington, D.C., was smeared by the 181-pound “Brown Bomber.” Louis fired shots into the veteran’s body, forcing Kracken to lower his guard. Once he did, Louis unleashed a sweet left hook to the jaw that sent Kracken straight through the ropes and into the journalist. Bravely, perhaps on pure instinct, Kracken got up and returned to the ring with a 14 count (20 count). However, the referee saw enough and stopped the fight.

Louis’ debut lasted all of 2 minutes and he was indeed on his way to not only a world title, but true greatness. Over time, Louis became an almost undefeated champion, as well as a true fighting hero in every sense of the word. Legendary battles in the ring with Jimmy Braddock, Max Schmeling, Billy Conn, “Two Ton” Tony Galento, Jersey Joe Walcott and at the very end Rocky Marciano – all this awaited Louis. And for the whole world. Like a record (probably never broken) 25 world title defenses.

Louis may be the most beloved of all heavyweight world champions. How could we possibly cope with a man who today wore his crown with such grace and dignity.

Ecstatic independence day!

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RIP Anthony Echol dead at 52

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R.I.P Antwun Echols Dead At 52

In gloomy news, former middleweight and super middleweight title challenger and three-time world title challenger Antwun Echols suddenly passed away over the weekend. On Sunday, July 2, Echols, just 52, was found dead in his home. Echols, a tough ring fighter who fought his best, often on low notice, was from Davenport, Iowa and turned professional in May 1993.

Losing his professional debut after being knocked out in the round by Anthony Ivory (whom Echols defeated in the rematch), Echols nevertheless established himself as a solid contender. Over time, Echols won the IBF, WBC, NBA and NABF middleweight titles. Echols’ three world title fights took place in the overdue 1990s and early 2000s. Twice, Echols faced the great Bernard Hopkins for the IBF middleweight title, while Echols challenged Anthony Mundine for the WBA super middleweight title. Hopkins decided on Echols and then stopped him in the rematch, while Mundine won a decision over Echols in the fight, which took place in Sydney, Australia.

Later in his career, Echols became a doorman and then a journeyman. Echols’ massive win came in May 2001 when he upset Charles Brewer via third-round TKO to win the WBA NBA 168-pound title.

Other massive and/or recognizable names Echols encountered during his long in-ring career included: Eric Lucas, Kabary Salem (another good win for Echols), Kingsley Ikeke, Rubin Williams, Fulgencio Zuniga, Peter Quillin, Roman Karmazin and Caleb Truax. Echols left in April 2016 after being retained by Lamar Russ.

Echols’ final ring record is 32-22-4(28). He was stopped 15 times, but most of those losses came when Echols was already far from his best.

At this time, everyone at ESB would like to express our condolences to Antwun’s family and friends. “Kid Dynamite,” as Echols was known, was a true badass and by all accounts a great person. 52 is not the age to quit. No official cause of Echols’ death has been announced at this time.

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Sky Sports’ list of the five greatest American boxers of all time is sure to spark debate

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Sky Sports List Of The Top Five Greatest Ever American Boxers Sure To Spark A Debate

Yesterday was, if you know of course, the Fourth of July. Independence Day. An critical date in American history. And in the history of boxing. So, in an effort to both pay tribute and perhaps spark some passionate debate among fight fans, the Toe2Toe Sky Sports podcast asked boxing expert Gary Logan for his list of the top 5 American boxers of all time.

Hey, everyone loves lists, right? Especially a list like this. This particular task given to Logan was, of course, not an simple one. Could you create such a list without having to leave out one of your favorite players? As Logan himself said, “You can’t please everyone.”

No, you can not. But Logan gave him a chance – a pretty decent shot, you may agree (or not).

Here are the top five boxers in Logan history, in reverse order:

5: Floyd Mayweather

4: Marvelous Marvin Hagler

3: Sugar Ray Leonard

2: Muhammad Ali

1: Sugar Ray Robinson

Personally, I have no problem with Logan’s list. But what about you? Maybe you’re a huge Mike Tyson fan and you think “Iron Mike” should be somewhere in the top five. How about the incomparable Joe Louis if “The Brown Bomber” was among the absolute best American stars? How about “The Rock” by Rocky Marciano? And these are just heavyweights. Surely Henry Armstrong should be somewhere in the top five? And Ezzard Charles….. and you could/I could, we could go on. But which of Logan’s five picks should be elbowed to make way for Tyson, Louis, Marciano, Armstrong or Charles? You see what a complex task Logan faced.

Perhaps when making lists like these, the person placed in the “sizzling seat” should be given more space, perhaps in a room where the top 10 or maybe 20 can be displayed. Or maybe that would just make the task that much harder!

Logan’s top 5 is solid, with some clear and fairly obvious choices. But again, are you cheerful with it?

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