Boxing History
Exclusive Interview: Thomas Hearns Speaks on Sugar Ray Leonard Classic
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Two great welterweights collided 40 years ago in Las Vegas. Quite simply, it was a fight the world watched. And celebrated. And still celebrate. Thomas “Hitman” Hearns vs. Sugar Ray Leonard for the undisputed welterweight title. It was a fight that promised so much and delivered everything – and more.
The changing moments, the brutal exchanges, the attractive skills, the guts, and then finally the comeback victory for the ruined Leonard. Hearns had to wait eight long years for his rematch, but today Hearns and Leonard are good friends. Simply put, these two established and rising welterweights underscored their greatness. And Hearns and Leonard gave the world a true Superfight. A fight for the ages.
A fight that will never be forgotten.
Hearns, now 62 but still in excellent fighting shape, will certainly never forget the fights that took place on September 16, 1981.
Here, “The Hitman” kindly talks about the epic to ESB readers:
Q: It’s an honor to talk to you, champ! When you think back to your great fight with Leonardo, how would you sum it up in a few words?
Thomas Hearns: “Well, first of all, it was a great opportunity for me, a chance to show the world my greatness. And when I look back, it’s quite straightforward: it was a really good fight, a great fight.
Q: Leonard had to really raise his game to beat you, he had to dig deeper than he ever had before. When you watch the fight tonight, what do you think you would have done differently in retrospect?
TH: “I probably would have thrown a few more punches than I did. I would have given him more angles, I would have given him different angles every time, after every attack.
Q: Even though you lost, do you consider the Leonard fight one of your best? How do you look back on the fight in terms of satisfaction and pride?
TH: “I think it was a good performance from me. I fought tough, we both did, and I gave a great performance.
Q: One of the things that came out about this fight is that you overtrained, you came in at a weight that was well under the 147-pound limit. You wanted to win so badly, but you actually trained too tough?
TH: “Yeah, I came in under the lights. But you know what, it was just about being ready and putting on a great show for the fans. I get that, yeah, I was trying too tough to get ready for the fight. You know, if the fans think it’s one of the best [welterweight] fights, then of course I agree with them!”
P: You had to wait eight long years to get your revenge. You said then that you thought about Leonard all the time?
TH: “Oh, long! Even now I think of Ray Leonard. I mean it when I say that if I had the chance to do it over again now, I would take the challenge.
Q: In the first fight you hurt Leonard badly, breaking his eye. In the second fight you dropped him twice. Were you the better fighter in the second fight?
TH: “I think I was a better fighter in 1989. I worked harder, I trained harder. For the second fight I really prepared and showed him what a great fighter I really am. He was surprised himself [in the rematch]he really was. He was surprised that I was in such great shape.”
Q: Are you good friends now?
TH: “Yeah, we’re good friends. We’ve made each other a lot of money, so we’ve been friends for a while.
P: When you look back, that fight was pretty basic. Didn’t either of you have any idea how to avoid each other? Unfortunately, it’s not the same now?
TH: “Well, today it seems like the guys have found a way to get out of it [taking the risky fights]. And so they can make a lot of money on the easier fights. For me, it’s always been about being the best and proving it; showing people that I’m the best. And I worked tough for that.
P: There is no doubt about it. Do you realize the affection that so many millions of fans have for you?
TH: “Well, I think the fans appreciate the fact that I’ve always put on a great show and that I’ve worked tough to do it. It’s always been about the same thing: getting ready to go out there and put on a spectacular show. When people pay their money, that’s what they deserve.”
Q: Was Ray Leonard the best boxer you ever fought?
TH: “Well, [Iran] Barkley was great. But the first fight [with Barkley] I made the mistake of preparing to knock him out, but I couldn’t do it.
Q: Do you miss 15-round fights?
TH: “I think 15-round fights should be kept, they give a fighter a chance to show how great he really is. If he’s a good fighter, he’ll go the full 15 rounds no problem. If he’s not a good fighter, he’ll get tired and won’t be able to go the full 15 rounds.”
Q: In 1982 you beat Wilfred Benitez in 15 rounds. How great was Benitez?
TH: “Wilfred was a great boxer. He really knew what he was doing in the ring. In our fight I had to show him that I was also a great boxer. I hit him once and twice. I hit him tomorrow [than anyone else had at that time].”
Q: The Leonard fight was great, but when, ideally, would you want a rematch? If it weren’t for Leonard’s eye problems, when do you think you would have gotten a rematch?
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TH: “I felt like it was going to happen in ’82, ’83. But it never happened. If it had, I think that fight would have gone to a whole other level.”
Q: Was there a moment when you were really worried you would never get a rematch?
TH: “I kept thinking about it! I lost a lot of sleep over it. I was worried, I was thinking, oh, he’s retired, he doesn’t want to fight me anymore. I was worried that he’s had enough of me (laughs).”
P: You should have a third fight! Maybe at delicate heavyweight?
TH: “No, he didn’t want a third fight. And I think he was too tiny for delicate heavyweight. I think if we fought again, it would be at super middleweight.”
Q: And if you had fought again, say in 1991, after beating Virgil Hill, do you think you would have knocked Leonard out? A lot of people thought you would have.
TH: “Well, you could say that, but if he couldn’t get the best shots for me the way he did, he wouldn’t be Ray Leonard. He could have taken the shot.
Q: My last question, champ – is Ray Leonard the best you’ve ever faced?
TH: “I think Ray was the best. Ray Leonard was definitely the best I’ve ever fought. It seems like a long, long time ago. Nobody can forget that fight, no matter how many years go by.”
Amen to that.
Boxing History
Boxing pays tribute to legend John Conteh
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November 22, 2024
On October 20, London’s Connaught Rooms restaurant hosted a full house for a luncheon in tribute to John Conteh, MBE.
The event was organized by London-based EBA Secretary/Treasurer Ray Caulfield and long-time LEBA benefactor Scott Ewing (John is LEBA Vice-President) to mark the 50th anniversary.vol anniversary of John winning the vacant WBC delicate heavyweight world title after defeating Argentine Jorge Ahumada on October 1, 1974.
But as Scott Ewing said in his opening speech, it was much more about John Conteh the person than the boxer. “John did so much for so many people,” Scott said.
He then described John’s work with Alcoholics Anonymous (“He brought so many back”) and the Variety Club, noting that John was only the second person (besides Jimmy Tarbuck) to be named captain of the Variety Club golf team. “He travels all over the country visiting EBA – he’s a great ambassador,” Scott said, explaining that John was also a major supporter of the Ringside Charitable Trust.
MC John McDonald did a great job all afternoon. He introduced many boxing personalities including world champions Frank Bruno MBE, Steve Collins MBE, Maurice Hope MBE and Colin McMillan BEM. (Bruno received thunderous applause, as did Michael Watson MBE.) There were also stars from other sports, including: Charlie George (football) and Phil Taylor (darts). As you can imagine, LEBA was well represented. I was also delighted to see EBA Croydon chairman Pat Doherty and Brighton stalwart Harry Scott.
Former European and Commonwealth heavyweight champion (and LEBA member) Derek Williams paid tribute to Conteh, describing him as a “true boxing legend”. “Your name has stood the test of time,” Derek said, noting that John had to overcome many challenges and obstacles, and in doing so, he “paved the way for other black warriors.” He said John had “made his mark on boxing” and described him as “boxing royalty”, concluding simply: “Thank you for everything you’ve done.”
We saw a video of John in action – two KOs early in his career, his 12thvol– a round of stoppage of the German Rudiger Schmidtke in the fight for the European delicate heavyweight crown, his two fights with the tardy Chris Finnegan (the first brought John the Briton and Commonwealth titles). And finally, Jorge Ahumada scores those great points.
I was ringside at Wembley that night. As for the BN staff, I was tasked with doing a preview of Conteh-Ahumada and I chose Ahumada, but ended with, “Prove me wrong, John.” And I have never been happier to be proven wrong! John’s brilliant performance really made me feel proud to be British.
A segment of John’s This Is Your Life (a very popular long-running TV show) was also filmed, in which Paul McCartney paid tribute to his fellow Liverpool native, and tributes from boxers who were unable to attend the event were also filmed. These included former world champions Johnny Nelson, Ricky Hatton and Jim Watt – as well as a tribute from boxing writer and broadcaster Adam Smith, who described John as “one of the greatest British fighters produced since [Second World] War.”
There was a very successful auction, conducted partly by Ray Caulfield and Scott Ewing and partly by John himself. John has an excellent reputation as an auctioneer at charity events and was in excellent shape. Entertainment was provided by Muhammad Ali Jr, who had everyone laughing with his impressions of his father, and comedian Bobby Davro.
As a nice gesture, John was given his WBC championship belt back – and in a low, modest speech, John thanked everyone for coming. He thanked his family, of which there was a lot – including his wife Veronica (they have been together for 50 years) and children James and Joanne. He also thanked Charles Atkinson, coach at Kirkby ABC, who started John on the path that ultimately led to the world title.
A wonderful tribute to a true boxing legend – and congratulations are in order to Ray Caulfield and Scott Ewing. These events don’t organize themselves
Boxing History
On this day: Lennox Lewis righting the wrong he committed in South Africa by hitting out at Hasim Rahman
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November 17, 2024Talk about pole work or a knockout when it matters most. Revenge Knockout. On this day in 2001, heavyweight great Lennox Lewis did the job he should have done when he first met Hasim Rahman. Instead, in April this year in South Africa, an ill-prepared (mainly for the altitude) Lewis was run over by a huge right hand from “Rock” Rahman. Rahman’s fifth-round KO victory is now seen as one of the greatest upsets in heavyweight history.
But Lewis, who ended up brawling with Rahman in a TV studio as the second fight approached, had sweet revenge. And it meant so much to Lewis, an avid chess player, that his KO would come sooner than Rahman’s.
They met at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas, and the fight was dubbed “The Final Judgment”. Lewis scored his most satisfying KO of his career.
Lewis, this time fit and piercing, was seven years older at 36 and yet, as it turned out, still close to his best. Rahman (35-2(29)) held the title for seven months and then it was all over. Lewis, 38-2-1(29) entering, lowered the sonic boom in round four.
After inflicting a minor cut above Rahman’s eye in the first round, Lewis also went through the next two rounds. Then, in round four, Lewis landed a brutal left-right combination to the head that sent Rahman’s senses into orbit. Rahman fell, tried to get up, and then fell again. It was the kind of ugly, humiliating knockout defeat that all fighters dread.
Lewis argued with him after the fight, calling Rahman “Has-been Rahman”.
Lewis exacted savage revenge, and while Rahman’s KO was stunning in the first fight, Lewis’ thunderous and thunderous KO made us all almost forget what happened in the first fight. Lewis scored many great knockouts during his ring career, including knockout/stoppage wins over Razor Ruddock, Frank Bruno, Andrew Golota, Shannon Briggs, Michael Grant, Frans Botha and Mike Tyson.
But the ice work Lennox did on that day some 23 years ago is one of his most special.
Boxing History
40 years ago: the “real opportunity” of a ring career began
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November 15, 2024It may be somewhat ironic that on the day Mike Tyson steps into the ring again, his most demanding rival in the ring turned professional on the same day some 40 years ago. Evander Holyfield, who kicked Tyson’s ass twice (well, once when he was about to repeat the task before Tyson went completely off the hinges and bit his ear off!), was of course part of the famed American Olympic team that conquered in Los Angeles, with other future stars Pernell Whitaker, Meldrick Taylor, Mark Breland and the less fortunate Tyrell Biggs are all professionals on the same card.
It took place at Madison Square Garden four decades ago, and Holyfield, who turned professional as a lithe heavyweight, won a six-round decision over Lionel Byarm. Holyfield was 22 years elderly at the time, and no one – like no one – could have had any idea how great the ring career of “The Real Deal” would be.
Holyfield, disqualified in the second round of the 1984 Olympic semi-finals, had to settle for bronze. Then he filled his trophy cabinet with gold, a whole cart full of gold.
Today, Holyfield is considered the best cruiserweight of all time, and only the great Oleksandr Usyk can claim to be better or as good as him at that weight. Holyfield gave us his first all-time cruiserweight classic in his 15-round war with the great Dwight Muhammad Qawi. Holyfield went through hell to win by split decision, and the fresh champion had to go to hospital to have his body fluids replaced with an IV drip. Holyfield thought long and challenging about quitting the sport because the battle with Qawi was so tough.
But Holyfield was now the world champion, and his team assured him that he would never have to go through such an ordeal again. It’s possible, even considering the wars Holyfield would find himself in at heavyweight, that no one has ever pushed him as challenging or as consistently as Qawi.
After the unification of the cruiserweight division, Holyfield obviously moved up, and there was already talk of a megafight with heavyweight king Mike Tyson. The two sparred for one round and now we know that Evander won. Tyson could intimidate almost everyone he fought, but he was never able to get to Holyfield like that. Holyfield will have to wait a few years before he gets his substantial chance against Tyson.
First came victories over Buster Douglas to become the heavyweight champion, and Holyfield held on for victories over George Foreman (in a monster PPV hit), Bert Cooper (his first date with Tyson postponed) and Larry Holmes. Before Evander had his first epic fight with Riddick Bowe. Holyfield lost to Bowe on points in 12 hotly contested rounds, but his huge heart was never so, well, huge. The rematch came and Holyfield got his revenge. Evander then lost to Michael Moorer and suffered a heart attack during the fight. This was definitely the end.
No, “cured” and armed with a fresh moniker, “Warrior,” Holyfield returned to the top of Ray Mercer, and then came the rubber match with Bowe. After defeating Bowe, Holyfield ran out of gas and was stopped for the first time in his career. This was definitely the end. No, again.
Holyfield scored a victory over Bobby Czyz while looking decidedly ordinary in the process. Then came the fight with Tyson – “Finally.” Tyson was released from prison and regained two pieces of the crown with basic and quick victories over Frank Bruno and Bruce Seldon. Tyson was the overwhelming 25/1 betting favorite at Holyfield, and people around the world were worried about Evander’s health and even his life.
In his most stunning victory, Holyfield defeated Tyson, dropped him, and then stopped him at the end of round 11. Holyfield was now the king of kings. Well, almost. Lennox Lewis would have to be defeated to remove any doubt as to who is the heavyweight king. First came the comeback with Tyson and the infamous “Bite Fight”. Then, with his ear patched, Holyfield took revenge on Moorer by stopping him for eight.
And then came two fights with Lewis, the first fight was called a draw and was considered one of the worst and most controversial decisions in boxing history. In the rematch, Holyfield performed better, but still lost by decision. Amazingly, Evander was able to fight for another 12 years!
The highlight of this period of unnecessary fighting was the victory over John Ruiz, thanks to which Holyfield won the vacant WBA heavyweight belt, making him the only four-weight champion in history. But the good times, good performances and victories began to end. Holyfield lost then drew to Ruiz, lost to Chris Byrd and was stopped by James Toney. However, Holyfield still refused to retire.
Only after defeats to Sultan Ibragimov and Nikolay Valuev (in a fight in which Holyfield was so close to winning, and if it had been, he would have been a five-time heavyweight champion) did Evander finally hang them up with a TKO defeat of Brian Nielsen.
It was one hell of a journey up and down, but most of all up! Holyfield won with a score of 44-10-2(29). Today, after attempting to come back and box on the show circuit while 59-year-old Holyfield was embarrassingly stopped by Vitor Belfort in 2021, Evander will be watching how his elderly rival Mike Tyson fares as he tries to fight on the show again at the age of 58 years.
But what a career Holyfield had. And it started today, 40 years ago.
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